>>>>> "Dave" == Dave Crocker <dhc2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Dave> I said that an AD has a job of doing project management Dave> and that doing other things -- however good at it the AD Dave> might be and however much more fun it might be -- often can Dave> and does take place IN LIEU OF doing that job, and that this Dave> failure has strategic cost to the productivity of the IETF. Dave> Working groups usually need help being productive. I actually think most ADs strike a reasonable balance on this area and will continue to believe this untill I see significant data that disagrees with my conclusion. I will note that I am not as good at striking this balance as some other ADs. Dave> Having their cognizant AD provide technical Dave> contributions to the working group rarely, if ever, Dave> satisfies that need. Having other ADs provide late-stage Dave> technical intervention also tends to be more Dave> counter-productive than productive, because their brilliant Dave> insight comes too damn late to be very helpful. Strongly disagree. Dave> The fact that there is an occasional exception and that Dave> the brilliant insight sometimes really is useful is being Dave> used to obscure just how wasteful it is, on the average. Data please. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf