Re: "IETF servers aren't for testing"

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Thanks for confirming that you have totally missed what the IASA process was all about.

This community has a number of people who wish to say how things need to be done - whether it is meeting location, IPv6 or cookies during the breaks - while absolutely refusing to spend any thought cycles whatsoever trying to find out how this organization is actually put together, who will have to make the decisions to implement their wishes, and who those people are accountable to.

You have thoroughly confirmed that you are among that group.

                       Harald

--On lørdag, august 06, 2005 13:17:47 -0400 shogunx <shogunx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 6 Aug 2005, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:

Once the IETF web services are operated under a contract with the IASA,
and that contract contains text like "these servers must be reachable via
IPv4", I think it is a very reasonable idea for the IETF Administrative
Director to ask the company providing this service under contract what
they would charge extra in order to change that line in their contract
to "IPv4 and IPv6".

At the moment, remember, the IETF's webservers are provided by a company
that is under no formal obligation to do anything requested by the IETF
community;

That is a fundamental imbalance in the order of things.

they have chosen for reasons that seem good to them to continue
not offering IPv6 access to the IETF servers, presumably because they
think that some of the other things we have asked them to do take
priority.

I think IPv6 can wait until we have the formalities straight.

With all due respect, thats bu%^sh$t.  The IETF needs no outside provider
to provided the desired level of connectivity.  I have had redundant /48's
routed to my internal networks for almost 2 years, both 6bone addressing
and production addresses, and my upstream bandwidth providers haven't even
heard of v6.  Thurn on the tunnel and get it over with, sans the
beauracracy that is crippling this organization.


                       Harald




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