----- Original Message ----- From: "Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "IETF General Discussion Mailing List" <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:16 PM Subject: Re: I'm not the microphone police, but ... > > I am sure large corporations would be more careful at sending their > > high-order IQ if they known that their inputs will tagged with the > > company name. > > What a wonderful world it would be, if that were true... > > I'm pretty sure that less than 0.001 percent of the management teams > at my IETF sponsors since 1996 had any idea that I was even ATTENDING > the IETF, and our process documents point out repeatedly that it's not > necessary to actually attend IETF face-to-face meetings in order to > participate in the IETF. > > My current sponsor is quite clear that I am, and will be, > participating in the IETF, but that's not true for most of the people > I talk to on IETF mailing lists. It's quite possible to be an > excellent document editor, and probably even a reasonable working > group chair, with very minimal sponsor awareness. I've paid my own way > to IETFs twice, both times as WG/BOF chairs, and I know that others > have paid their own way many more times than I have. > > If an employee doesn't fill out a travel authorization to attend the > face to face meetings, does anyone on the management team even hear > this tree fall? > > Spencer > My own experience of a large organisation heavily involved in networking was that being sent to Paris or London or Japan or ... was given as a reward to someone in the networking arena who had performed well against their objectives for the previous year. Prior knowledge, skill, ability to contribute were not a consideration except insofar as they formed part of those objectives. Of course, others could take annual leave and fund it themselves - wish I had. Tom Petch _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf