On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:12:24 +0200 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > In Las Vegas I waited 8 hours in the security queue last time to return back > to my home. Of course the flights already departed and as it was not a fault > of the company, I needed to buy a new ticket, no refund and of course, I > don't think the US government will pay for it, right ?. Did they have slot machines conveniently placed so you can play them in queue ? (They do at baggage claim, which also frequently causes hour + waits.) Things can also be very bad getting into Xanadu. The last time I went to Las Vegas (for the NAB, about 80,000 attendees) I took a 6:00 AM flight out from DC, arrived before the rush, and it only took me about 2 hours to get into my hotel room from the airport, maybe 2 km away. My collegues left later in the day, and it took them almost 6 hours, including a 2 hour wait out in the afternoon Sun for a cab from the airport and a 2 hour wait to check into the hotel. IMHO, the IETF is about two orders of magnitude too small to need Las Vegas. Don't do it. Regards, Marshall > > I don't think is acceptable, unless there is a commitment from the US > authorities to avoid this type of unfair situations. > > Mexico is already in the queue to be considered and there are some other > locations in South and Central America which offered to host it. > > Regards, > Jordi > > > > > > De: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Responder a: <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> > > Fecha: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:52:50 -0700 > > Para: shogunx <shogunx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > > Asunto: RE: Meeting Locations > > > > Las Vegas has ridiculously cheap air fares, large amounts of cheap > > accomodation and many hotels that have the necessary conference > > infrastructure. > > > > Cancun and Acapulco are even cheaper. > > > > The Mexico option has the considerable advantage that non-US visitors do > > not get insulted at the border by either US-Visit or the often > > threatened visa requirements for countries that do not issue biometric > > passports. > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On > >> Behalf Of shogunx > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:03 PM > >> To: ietf@xxxxxxxx > >> Subject: Re: Meeting Locations > >> > >> > >> How about Daytona Beach? > >> > >> > >> On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Sam Hartman wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>> "Jeffrey" == Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@xxxxxxx> writes: > >>> > >>> Jeffrey> On Thursday, July 14, 2005 08:50:16 PM -0700 > >>> Jeffrey> bill@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >>> > >>>>> Anyone want to bet on Minneapolis - Its March after all. > >>> > >>> Jeffrey> Sounds good to me. > >>> > >>> Me too. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Ietf mailing list > >>> Ietf@xxxxxxxx > >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > >>> > >> > >> sleekfreak pirate broadcast > >> http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Ietf mailing list > >> Ietf@xxxxxxxx > >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf mailing list > > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > ************************************ > The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org > > Barcelona 2005 Global IPv6 Summit > Information available at: > http://www.ipv6-es.com > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The > information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the > intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of > this information, including attached files, is prohibited. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf