> My biggest concern here is not the IESG itself, it's the folk who > presume to speak on its behalf. This is a valid concern, and one that has made me cringe multiple times. I've too often heard of reports where someone says "but the IESG will never accept this", or "that's not what AD foo says", etc. Folks should not take such statements as gospel, but should do due diligence to verify that such statements are actually true and make sense (statements are often nuanced, and meaning gets significantly changed when paraphrased, etc.). Bottom line, folks should be skeptical about blanket assertions, unless they are convinced they really understand the issues and the justification for an AD (or the IESG) saying something. If in doubt, ask and get additional opinions. Thomas _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf