>>>>> "Scott" == Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Scott> re draft-iesg-discuss-criteria-00.txt Scott> I think this is a very helpful document - if followed by Scott> the IESG it should reduce the number of what appears to be Scott> blocking actions by ADs Scott> but I did not see any enforcement mechanism - i.e. if an AD Scott> enters a DISCUSS over a section 3.2 reason how does the Scott> IESG tell that AD to back off? It seems like the alternate Scott> voting process is not needed to have the IESG look at a Scott> DISCUSS comments and reach a consensus that it is not (or Scott> is) a legit DISCUSS area how about just waiting to see if we have a problem before designing new process? It seems likely that if there is internal conflict within the IESG, the IESG will find a way to resolve that conflict. If you don't feel that you can leave these sorts of details to the IESG, then you shouldn't be trusting the IESG at all. That's a valid position, but it is not resolved by creating enforcement mechanisms. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf