Re: RFC 2434 term "IESG approval" (Re: IANA Action: Assignment of an IPV6 Hop-by-hop Option)

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This is a beautifull troll :-) However the good of the WG-ltru work calls for short comments where we will probably partly agree.

At 22:23 28/06/2005, Randy Presuhn wrote:
> The review of  the management of the IANA langtag registry is subject to
> the work of the WG-ltru. http://ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html

Thank you for the advertisement.  We are very close to WG last call, so
I urge those interested to join now.

Yes! This is really an important issue. Not usual IEFT but important.

There are more than two WG participants whose first language is not English.

True. I should have said as regular contributors. We need more.

Some members are linguists by training, and the WG includes experts in internationalization.

Yes. But we are missing experts in networking, Internet standard process, multilingualism, national cultures, LDAP, standard document witing. This is a actually complex issue (mix of lingual subjective and networking/standardisation precise issues).

> The consistency with ISO 11179 (Registries continuity) and the work IETF
> should carry in that area, is precisely what would prevent cases like the
> HBH case and determine how such parameters should be recorded and where.
...

The ltru WG consensus was to not delay our work in order to align with ISO 11179.

This is unfortunately a self-evaluation of the WG current consensus process ... I say this because the WG charter says "[the Dratf/WG] is also expected to provide mechanisms to support the evolution of the underlying ISO standards". The ISO 639-6 and ISO 639-4 persons (present on the list) explained these two standards will comply with ISO 11179. ISO 639-4 defines the guidelines for all the language standards used by the WG. This consensus therefore opposes the charter (but if the Draft does not want to be BCP 47, this is IMHO acceptable, but must be discussed).

Anyway I understand the concern as ISO 11179 is a "big" thing. It is also key element of the future. And certainly the key of the evolution of RFC 2434 if to stay compatible with the global convergence. Interesting to share here. Beware: ISO 11179 is not finished and already an heavy document. IETF should work on its network/multilingual simplification.

jfc







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