You could also reasonably rule it obnoxious, childish, and pubescent. Moreover since according to your earlier post you don't think fact is an acceptable defense of a personal attack your response is at best a curious double standard. Unless of course your comment about it being fact was just some snyde payback from an earlier discussion. Clearly Harald included himself in the conversation for the sole purpose of being a jerk and his success in that area was disruptive and deconstructive at least for me. Best regards, Nick Staff -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:56 AM To: Dean Anderson Cc: Harald Tveit Alvestrand; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. I read it as a statment of fact. I could reasonably rule it irrelevant and ask Harald not to repeat it. Brian Dean Anderson wrote: > This would be a personal attack, I think. > > --Dean > > On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: > > >>Since I'm no longer responsible for anything that Dean Anderson has a >>legitimate role in, and Dean Anderson has proved that he irritates me, >>I can stop listening to Dean Anderson. >> >>Goodbye, mr. Anderson. >> >>--On 25. juni 2005 20:21 -0400 Dean Anderson <dean@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >>>The IETF cannot accept the statements of known, court-proven liars, >>>nor can it suppress this fact in its deliberations. If the IETF >>>accepts court-proven and documented liars as reliable sources of >>>fact, then it will have no more credibility in its statements, as >>>they will be based on lies, not on truth. >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Ietf mailing list >>Ietf@xxxxxxxx >>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> >> > > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf