>>>>> "Steven" == Steven M Bellovin <smb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Steven> ------- Forwarded Message Steven> In message <tsloeaqgc2s.fsf@xxxxxxxxxx>, Sam Hartman Steven> writes: >> >> >> Hi, folks. The IESG has received a last call comment >> recommending that the new rc4 cipher for ssh be published as >> informational rather than as a proposed standard because of >> weaknesses in rc4. It would be inappropriate to make a >> decision based on one comment so I am soliciting comments on >> this point. >> >> The argument in favor of publishing this document at proposed >> is that the existing arcfour cipher is part of a standard and >> that many other IETF protocols use rc4 in standards track >> documents. >> Steven> Correct me if I'm wrong, but the serious problems with RC4 Steven> that I know of are related-key attacks. That's what I thought too. However that seems to be false. The one reference currently in the security considerations section is for an attack to distinguish an RC4 stream from a random stream. That's much more serious for ssh and tls than the related key attacks. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf