--On Wednesday, 04 May, 2005 17:04 +0200 Brian E Carpenter <brc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Please understand the argument that was made strongly while > RFC 3777 was in WG discussion: there is reason to believe that > a substantial fraction of the potential candidates would *not* > volunteer if they were entering a public race. It's hard to > judge the validity of that argument, but it's certain that > publishing the names would change the whole process in > unpredictable ways. >... Let me follow this up a bit. I've been encouraging people to try to sort through reasons and things that would make it different on another thread, but I think we have a "choice of potential candidates" problem today. The IESG and IAB received "very few real choices" reports from several nomcoms while I was serving there. Possibly things have gotten better, but I have my doubts. Whatever the reasons, we don't seem to have enough plausible candidates to provide reasonable turnover on the IESG (which, personally, I think would be healthy). Even assuming that publishing candidate lists would result in better-quality feedback and permit the Nomcom to make better choices among plausibly-appropriate candidates, please look at the other side. There are people in the community who, for whatever reassons, find the prospect of a "volunteer, have that public, and then not be selected" process sufficiently painful to prevent them from volunteering... or certainly from volunteering more than once or twice. There are also subtle differences in how one can volunteer that can be expressed in confidence to the Nomcom: "I don't really want to do this, but will serve if you conclude that it is important and I'm the best choice" or "I can't work with X and would accept the position only if X were not selected" are comments that can be made today, but which don't show up on public lists. I believe that many of the people who would semi-volunteer with such conditions would decline to volunteer at all if their names would go on an undifferentiated public list. So, those of you who strongly advocate a public list... What percentage of the already-too-small potential candidate pool are you willing to lose? Are you convinced that anyone with sensitivities or conditions similar to those outlined above would make a bad AD if selected? Do you think the tradeoffs are worth it? john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf