> Alas, much as pointing out the numerous errors above would > interest me, it's a bit far afield for this list. (I'm > particularly amused by your calling on Plato for support - he > was profoundly anti-democratic.) That is exactly the type of dishonest rhetorical tactic that has caused so many people to become very disillusioned with the IETF: 'I could explain the numerous mistakes you make to you sonny, but I am too important to bother'. Plato was anti-democratic with good reason. The Athenian 'democracy' that was cited as the exemplar degenerated into mob rule and the judicial murder of Socrates. It is in any case a somewhat strange idea to hold to a city state run by a slave owning elite as an exemplar of democratic processes or traditions. Even the Roman Republic allowed the plebs to elect a Tribune. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf