A bit more input on this subject... It appears that (as one could have predicted) trying to get this piece of universal technology in place in < 10 years is going to be difficult. It appears that there is a limited agreement on content (actually a digitized mugshot) but very little on the nature of the chip. Security and interoperability are big problems (surpise, surprise) and the privacy lobbies on both sides of the Atlantic are having a field day. Diplomatic negotiations are ongoing to postpone the requirement (till mid-2006) but it sounds like there are several entrenched positions around this and whether there will be a universal standard implemented by then is a very moot point. See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/01/eu_bio_passport_delay/ Still, I think I might get my passport refreshed before October. Maybe the IETF could help;-) Elwyn > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Jaap Akkerhuis > Sent: 02 April 2005 14:37 > To: 'IETF Discussion' > Subject: Re: New regulations for US Visa Waiver Programme (was RE: > frenchcrypto regulations relating to personal encryption usagebyvisitors? > ) > > > > > Real serious issues seem to be waved away. To my opinion, one > > threat to the international nature of the IETF are the continuous > > increasing difficulties entering the US. This morning I read in the > > local papers that starting the 25th of october the Visa-Waiver > > program will grind to a halt for (most) Europeans. > > > > jaap > > > This depends on whether your passport issuing authority is getting it > together with some new requirements for machine readability. > > See (e.g.) http://stockholm.usembassy.gov/Consulate/mr_passports.html > > Summarizing: if you get a new passport on or after 26 Oct 2005, the > Visa > Waiver Program will only apply if the passport includes machine > readable > biometric data embedded in a 'contactless' chip (facial recognition > data > apparently). > > Since I get more private reactions, let me paraphrase the > article: > > --- > Dutch travellers need a a visum after the 25th of October. The US > Congres doesn't want to delay requirements for digital fingerprints > in european passports. > > This is the reaction in a letter from Jameson Sensenbrenner, chair > of the relevant comittee in the US Congres to the Euro commisioner > Fratini (Justice). ``The concern about the weak border control of > the US will make an extra delay difficult''. > > European passports will only in 2008 be fulfill the requirements. > > It will be difficult for the US authorities to prcess th visa for > the 13 million people which now are under the Visa Waiver program. > > --- > > This doesn't apply if your passport is already machine readable (ie. > Most > current European passports) and is issued before 26 Oct 2005. > > Well, I'm not sure how to read the following in the VisaWaferProgram > side (http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html). It > states: > > Biometric Passports - President Bush signed legislation, > which delays until October 26, 2005 the requirement for > Visa Waiver Program (VWP) countries to include biometrics > in their passports. The Department of Homeland Security now > enrolls Visa Waiver Program travelers in the U.S. Visitor > and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology (US-VISIT) program > at all airports and seaports. To read more, select News > Release and Fact Sheet . > > Seems that after 26/10/2005 (that's 10/25/2005 for americans :-)), > you need a ``biometric enabled passport''. > > jaap > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf