On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:15:15 -0600, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > - I've been hearing continued discussion in the hallway of "X can't > get into the US for the IETF due to immigration issues". If we're more > successful finding sponsors outside the US than inside the US, > sponsorship may be yet another reason to move to a "two IETFs/year > outside the US" model. > > FWIW, I found Carsten's note terrifying, but can't argue accuracy with > him: > > > Right now, if you need significant discussion in a WG, it seems you > > have to schedule an interim. Using the Seoul IETF as an exemplar, attendance by "regular contributors" was quite poor. We need to worry not just about overall attendance, but attendance by people who get the work done. In a very real sense, we do not require IETF meeting scheduling requests to obligate the requests' organizers to get any productive work done. If we treated IETF meeting time as the scarce, valuable resource that it really is, we would almost certainly require more up-front and "objectives-based" planning. I suspect that would also lead to fewer meeting slots, which might allow for more time available to the groups that do want to have significant discussion. d/ --- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking +1.408.246.8253 dcrocker a t ... WE'VE MOVED to: www.bbiw.net _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf