I would like to thank every one for their responses. Pramod Madabhushi --- Henry Sinnreich <Henry.Sinnreich@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Folks, > > >Thats what RAQMON doesin a media gnostioc fashion. > > RAQMON is an excellent approach for network elements > > The media statistics for SIP calls are intended at > the application level in > endpoints, such as when using an Instant Messenger > client for voice or a > soft phone, or a SIP phone, or a game with VoIP. > > Let's not be dogmatic and force techniques that have > been designed for > network elements such as routers, gateways or > servers on to the application > level in endpoints, where many good practical > reasons have shown the RTCP > extensions to be the better approach. Live and let > live! > > Thanks, Henry > > -----Original Message----- > From: sipforum-discussion-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:sipforum-discussion-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Siddiqui, Anwar > A (Anwar) > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:01 AM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); ThomasGal@xxxxxxxxxxxx; > Madabhushi Pramod; > sip-implementors-requesto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > sipforum-discussion@xxxxxxxxxxx; > ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: [Sipforum-discussion] RE: Collecting media > statistics for SIP > calls? > > Like you point out its not SIP specific but there > are certain aspects of SIP > that we need to take care of and RAQMON does that. > let me clarify; Since it > is SIP the session monitoring is media agnostic and > need to accomodate that. > > Thats what RAQMON doesin a media gnostioc fashion. > Voice Over IP, Video over IP or Fax over IP and many > other apps fit into the > Framework. See it helps you. > > Since it is in WG LAst call, would be very happy to > see what kind of needs > you have and ensure that it serves the purpose. > > Anwar > > -----Original Message----- > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 2:36 AM > To: ThomasGal@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Madabhushi Pramod; > sip-implementors-requesto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > sipforum-discussion@xxxxxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx > Cc: Siddiqui, Anwar A (Anwar) > Subject: RE: Collecting media statistics for SIP > calls? > > > I agree. This is not a SIP domain specific issue. > See my previous answer > pointing to the real-time application QoS monitoring > (RAQMON) work in the > RMON MIB WG. > > Regards, > > Dan > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx > [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx]On > > Behalf Of Thomas Gal > > Sent: 31 October, 2004 11:00 PM > > To: 'Madabhushi Pramod'; > > sip-implementors-requesto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > > sipforum-discussion@xxxxxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx > > Subject: RE: Collecting media statistics for SIP > calls? > > > > > > I don't think that's really a SIP domain issue, > though > > this may have > > been adressed somewhere that I'm not aware of. > > If you're using RTP to carry the audio than these > statistics are > > derived from the RTP stream in the context of the > sender > > (with you being the > > receiver) and the sender sends SR (Sender Report) > RTCP packets with > > interarrival jitter included. Packet count, > fraction lost, > > and cumulative > > number of packets lost are also transmitted in > these packets. > > Latency would > > probably be derived from the NTP timestamp if > anything and is > > not directly > > addressed in RTP to my knowledge. So if you wanted > this data > > after the fact > > the server would have to maintain that > information, and it > > would probably be > > a query at the application level, not really > anything to do with SIP. > > > > -Tom > > > > thomasgal@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx > [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On > > > Behalf Of Madabhushi Pramod > > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:09 PM > > > To: sip-implementors-requesto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > > > sipforum-discussion@xxxxxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx > > > Subject: Collecting media statistics for SIP > calls? > > > > > > Is there any way by which I call query a SIP > endpoint for > > > media statictics after call termination. I would > like to know > > > details like Jitter, latency, packet loss, > packets received, > > > packets sent etc. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Pramod Madabhushi > > > ShoreTel communications. > > > > > > ===== > > > Pramod Madabhushi > > > email: mpramod@xxxxxxxxxxx, > > > madabhushi_p@xxxxxxxxx > > > Phone:001-408-204-8077 > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Y! 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