"test" <test@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dave Aronson, äå! (BTW, those two characters before the ! just show up as empty boxes here.) > This new tech is compatible with the other anti-spam techniques I would certainly hope so. Otherwise it would be worse than useless. > The last parameter is \"spam\".It means the posibility of \"this > email is a junk-mail\" is 20%. Where the value is from? > It\'s because the new-tech work together with filterings on the > sender smtp server. And in the case we are concerned with, that of the spammer, what is to prevent the sender smtp server from claiming zero percent chance? Or, if the white-hats realize "zero means it must be from a spammer", spammers could claim some random very low percentage. > First phase,Some huge ESPs turn to use the new-tech,cause them to > avoid to receive spam each other I still don't quite see how this prevents them from getting spam, especially before the rest of the world has adopted your new way. > Second phase,to stop the new-tech be > compatible with the traditional tech. And thereby cause massive headaches all over. This isn't impossible, and may in fact be the final way to go, but IMHO the new way is going to have to look much more promising first (enough that everybody's "what's in it for me?" is well-answered), and a lot of planning must go into it. Transition periods are hell.... > (Becasue most of spammers are > use their own pc to make spam,and the new-tech won\'t allow people > use pc to be a smtp server,as I wrote the new-tech will share an > authority IPs database on Internet) I don't understand what you mean here. Do you mean there will be some central database of duly authorized mail-sending servers, and spammers (and their z0mb13z belonging to clueless people on home broadband links) will not be in this database? Who will administer this database? How will servers be authorized? How will its accuracy be ensured? How will its availability be ensured? How will the spammers be kept out? How will those let in but later discovered to be spammers, be ejected? How will everybody's willingness to be under said central authority's electronic thumb be ensured? How will the authority's fairness be ensured? It could be a distributed database like DNS, so that the centralization issues are less, but that just means that keeping the spammers out, keeping it accurate, and other such problems, become all the harder. There is much clarification remaining to be done, and frankly I think it's on a shaky basis to begin with. -- David J. Aronson Work: http://destined.to/program Play: http://listen.to/davearonson _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf