There are very good arguments as to why "intellectual property" and derivatives should be avoided as a term. One should talk instead about patents, copyrights and trademarks instead. The issues represented by the three are substantially different among the three and they can't be successfully generalized. To illustrate the inappriateness of the "intellectual property" as a term, all we have to do is examine the current state of patents, copyrights, and trademarks: It is unlikely that Patents are on the way out. It may be that software patents are on the way out. It may be that biotech patents are on the way out. It is unlikely the copyrights are on the way. It may be that copyright abuse may be limited. It is unlikely that trademarks are on the way out. --Dean On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Ted Faber wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 09:44:02PM +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > > On 12-okt-04, at 19:36, Thomas Gal wrote: > > > > >and IP is on it's way out > > > > Please note that in the IETF the letters "IP" first and foremost mean > > "Internet Protocol". To use them for something else is confusing. > > To forestall the question, when communicating with the IETF one > shortens "intellectual property" to "IPR." You can pretend it > abbrieviates "Intellectual Property Rights" or "Intellectual PRoperty." > It replaces both phrases in discourse and writing. > > -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 344 9000 _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf