-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I cant think of some brillant ideas that commercial products will definitely crash the open source products if it can deliver services as what the commercial does. IPR protection is highly regarded, that is the presence of GPL and is necessary for open source not to be copied by its commercial competitors. The question is, is the open source software has its competitive uniqueness over the commercial products? If yes then GPL is in the right way, but if not then better yet to improved first and protect them later on. Open source products composed of people in the world if not in a big organization, working and trying to transcend the capabilities of such commercial products. On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:52:38 -0700 shogunx <shogunx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Nathaniel Borenstein wrote: > >> This strikes me as oversimplistic. What if a commercial enterprise >> wanted to license its IPR in such a way that it put no constraints >on >> open source, but retained constraints on commercial competitors? > I'm >> not sure you can get around a technical mandate for some kind >of >> license and still retain those options. -- Nathaniel > >I can cite an example of a commercial enterprise with copyrighted >GPL'd >products who has some emasures to prevent this. They sell clusters, > and >distribute the source code directly only to customers. If you are >an >open source programmer, get to know them, and ask nicely, they will >give >you a copy for your purposes... i.e. if you want to "roll your own" >cluster. One could also probably acquire a copy from one of their >customers, but a vast majority of their solution is hardware also, > in the >form of master node and diskless processing nodes. > > >> >> On Oct 13, 2004, at 10:55 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: >> >> > Sam Hartman <hartmans@xxxxxxx>: >> >> I think it would be wonderful if the free software community >could >> >> come to a consensus about what their requirements are. >> > >> > That's not hard. We need licensing conditions that don't require >us >> > to either pay royalties or sign legal papers, and which don't >inhibit >> > re-use of the code by restricting the area of application. >> > -- >> > <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond</a> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ietf mailing list >> > Ietf@xxxxxxxx >> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ietf mailing list >> Ietf@xxxxxxxx >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> > >sleekfreak pirate broadcast >http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ > > >_______________________________________________ >Ietf mailing list >Ietf@xxxxxxxx >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf RODEL COLLADO URANI -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 2.4 wkYEARECAAYFAkFwqa0ACgkQQ7QUZrvBIZ1imACePEAvolBHdi3qLJfQDvz/uq6FfbkA nRVSJl+0aUVqhPfxD/fHe4py9h4d =oDO3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf