>>>>> "Dave" == Dave Crocker <dhc2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Dave> My focus is on knowing what the details of the jobs are that Dave> we want done. Referring to the interface(s) is a convenient Dave> technique for trying to surface those details. Dave> Currently we do not have the details. What we are doing is Dave> like buying a building or a vehicle before we really Dave> understand what uses they are going to be put to. This Dave> leads to thinking that those details are trivial. They Dave> aren't. I think many of us agree with you that we do not know the details. I believe we also agree that we will eventually need to know the details. I don't seem to require the details you are asking for to feel like I'm making an informed decision between the two scenarios. I think thas' because I cannot imagine how the sorts of details you are talking about could influence my decision at this level. Could you perhaps come up with two possible parts of the answer for what we're trying to accomplish here that influence the decision between the two scenarios? If you could show one possible job we might want done that favors a corporation and another that favors working within the ISOC struture, you would go a long way to showing people that we need to discuss the kind of details you are asking for now instead of later. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf