> scott bradner wrote: 10 October 2004 21:39 > small quotes are fine (under fair use) but significant excerpts are not > (under normal copyright law and under the copyright notices on IETF RFCs) > > > Scott Well I've just reached to the shelf behind me for a book that some well meaning (but possibly misguided) soul gave me called "The Big Book of IPSEC RFC's" compiled by Pete Loshin and published in 2000, by Morgan Kaufman www.academicpress.com This contains full text of RFC's 1320, 1321, 1828, 1829, 2040, 2085, 2104, 2144, 2202, 2268, 2401, 2402, 2403,2404, 2405, 2406, 2407, 2408, 2409, 2410,2411, 2412,2451, and 2631. It also contains some commentary. On its notices page is the following statement. "Compiliation copyright @ 2000 by Academic Press" and "The RFC's compiled in this volume are copyright @Internet Society. All rights reserved. The Internet Society requires the following notice: The RFC's in this compilation and translations of it may be copied and furnished to others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published and distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any kind, provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph are included on all such copies and derivative works. However, the RFC's themselves may not be modified in any way, such as by removing the copyright notice to The Internet Society or other Internet organisations, except as needed for the purpose of developing Internet standards in which case the procedures for copyrights defined in the Internet Standards process must be followed, or as required to translate into languages other than English. The limited permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be revoked by The Internet Society of its successors or assigns. The RFC's are provided on an "AS IS" basis and THE INTERNET SOCIETY AND THE INTERNET ENGINEERING TASK FORCE DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTY THAT THE USE OF THE INFORMATION HEREIN WILL NOT INFRINGE ANY RIGHTS OR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. " Does this qualify as a small quote? Christian _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf