John,
--On søndag, oktober 03, 2004 15:11:24 -0400 John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
The IAB and IESG continue to appoint secret (i.e., not announced and minuted) committees to hold secret (i.e., not announced in advance to the community) meetings, despite promises in San Diego that this would stop.
I am sorry that you misunderstood what I said in San Diego.
The IESG and IAB has had the substantive discussion of the restructuring right here on the IETF list. That's what we promised, that's what we delivered. The cards we have been dealt are on the table.
It has also continued to have discussions among the IESG and IAB, as I believe is their right and duty, and to have discussions with the ISOC Board of Trustees, also in private, which I believe is their right and duty too.
In the course of these discussions, some facts and arguments have come to light that I have not yet seen reflected on the list. Those, as far as they influence what the IESG and IAB proposes as solutions, need to be brought to the list.
But I cannot accept the world picture that your accusatory sentence above seems to be painting.
It's WRONG.
Harald
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