>>>>> "Lyndon" == Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: Lyndon> Finally, we need to address the issue of the MD5 "break." Lyndon> I have held off from commenting on this issue until the Lyndon> community has seen explicit evidence of the attack, and Lyndon> the implications of it. At this point, I don't know if the Lyndon> document deserves a writeup on the attack. Theory abounds, Lyndon> but I haven't yet seen a practical attack that works in Lyndon> the general case. We should at the least make mention of Lyndon> what has been discussed, and point to the literature, but Lyndon> I don't think the document deserves to discuss all the Lyndon> possible attacks. This doesn't mean to discourage anyone Lyndon> from contributing text to the Security Considerations Lyndon> section (please do). The security area seems to believe that hmac-md5 is still OK, at least for now. Especially since cram-md5 does not require much structure for the challenge, we should discuss the issue in the security considerations section. Will you need agenda time at the next meeting? If so, can you give an estimate of how much and what we want to cover? Thanks, --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf