Who said anything about necessary state and reasonable timeouts? I've seen more than one brand of consumer-grade box with NAT features that could not be turned off, and that even in their most permissive settings kill ssh sessions after an hour or two whether the ssh sessions had been active or not.
I have one that shot down my ssh sessions after 5 minutes of aparent inactivity - "Hey this tcp session hasn't seen any pr0n in 5 minutes. It must be a stalled http. Let's kill it!" This is a *major* supplier of soho equipment. Moreover it was clear from the support-forum that this was a concious choice. The question is what effect a BCP from the BEHAVE-wg would have. Personally I am an optimist. Cheers Leif
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