[Last-Call] Re: Last Call: Moving RFCs 793, 1065, 1723 and 1725 to Historic

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--On Wednesday, 18 December, 2024 12:48 +1100 Martin Thomson
<mt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024, at 12:23, John C Klensin wrote:
>> The solution there
>> might be a new category of "Obsolete", to join Proposed
>> Standard, Internet Standard, and BCP.
> 
> Seems reasonable to me.  It's usually a mistake in designing
> computer systems to conflate axes of state, but I can't see
> why that would be a problem in this case.  On the contrary, it
> avoids confusion.
> 
> For RFC 793, datatracker currently says:
> 
> Document type
> RFC - Internet Standard 
> 
> You have to read the fine print to see that it is obsolete.
> That's not a great presentation.

And, if one follows various other bits of advice and looks at
rfc-index.txt, one finds:

 0793 Transmission Control Protocol. J. Postel. September
	1981. (Format: TXT, HTML) (Obsoletes RFC0761) (Obsoleted
	by RFC9293) (Updated by RFC1122, RFC3168, RFC6093,
	RFC6528) (Status: INTERNET STANDARD)

Which is _really_ confusing unless one is an IETF insider who
understands our rather odd conventions
 
> (This is something the old tools.ietf.org presentation got
> right.  It's unfortunate that it got lost amidst the host of
> other improvements.)

Yep.
best,
  john



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