[Last-Call] Re: [Emailcore] TURN (was: Re: Re: SMTP threat models, SECDIR Review of draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc5321bis-31)

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On Nov 2, 2024, at 00:37, Dave Crocker <dhc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[speaking with my AD hat on]

Playing with spec text just because, gosh, we could do better, should be questionable for a spec and especially for the late-stage of a -bis effort


I feel I need to remind you that the purpose of the IETF LC is partially to allow people not closely following a WG mailing list to become aware of an imminent publication of a draft. It is expected to reach people who have not read this document before and give them a chance to give feedback.

It is not valid to discard these people’s views as “too late in the process”.

A dissent like this would also be expected to be mentioned in the Shepherds Write Up, and if the responsible AD would continue to bring this unmodified to the IESG, would at least be expected to justify why textual changes were deemed not needed. Such justification can definitely be accepted by the IESG, but not because it’s “too late in the process”.

Paul



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