On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 01:38:03AM +0000, Dave Crocker wrote: > DMARC, DKIM and SPF are all completely outside of the email transport > protocol specification. They are very much IN scope for a broader > discussion of email as a service. But that's a different goal. Given that SMTP is a hop-by-hop transmission protocol, while DKIM, DMARC and SPF attempt to address (to various degrees, and with various known drawbacks) end-to-end authentication of message origin. Description or mention of those particular protocols is not IMHO a good fit for the SMTP transport standard. RFCs relevant to SMTP transport security include RFC 3207 (SMTP STARTTLS), RFC 7672 (DANE SMTP) and RFC 8461 (MTA-STS hack). In particular, at least from Gmail's vantage, RFC3207 adoption is has come a long way since 2013, with STARTTLS now covering ~98% of traffic: https://transparencyreport.google.com/safer-email/overview?encrypt_out=start:1356912000000;end:1730159999999;series:outbound&lu=encrypt_in&encrypt_in=start:1356912000000;end:1730159999999;series:inbound But that's on the public Internet, and perhaps biased by GMail's traffic going substantially to other similar providers. Inside private networks the numbers are liable to be quite different. -- Viktor. -- last-call mailing list -- last-call@xxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to last-call-leave@xxxxxxxx