Salut Pascal, Many thanks for taking care of the comments. This version is much more better. I guess the only pending comment is on the hands of the Chairs/AD: > ## Liaise with material owners > > The material included in various sections is owned by other SDOs. > Unless this is already done, it would be reasonable to send LSes to at > least 3GPP/IEEE to review relevant sections. Cheers, Med > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Pascal Thubert <pascal.thubert@xxxxxxxxx> > Envoyé : dimanche 20 octobre 2024 16:47 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc : ops-dir@xxxxxxxx; detnet@xxxxxxxx; draft-ietf-raw- > technologies.all@xxxxxxxx; last-call@xxxxxxxx > Objet : Re: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-raw- > technologies-10 > > > Hello Med: > > It took a few publications but I believe your comments related to > the document are now addressed. > > Please let us know. Again many thanks for your in-depth review ! > > A bientôt; > > Pascal > > > Le 10 sept. 2024 à 15:46, Mohamed Boucadair via Datatracker > <noreply@xxxxxxxx> a écrit : > > > > Reviewer: Mohamed Boucadair > > Review result: Has Issues > > > > Hi authors, > > > > Many thanks for the effort put into this document along several > years. > > > > I reviewed the document from an ops-dir review, but I also have > more > > general > > comments: > > > > # OPS > > > > Although mentioned too late in the document (security section), > the > > document says explicitly that it does not include any ops > > considerations. It is fair to set that scope given the rich > content of > > the document and main objective to describe technologies > themselves. > > However, such mention should be included early in the document. > > > > There are ops considerations that are applicable to scheduling > > resources in general, path computation, or synchronization > matters. > > Nevertheless, given that the objectives is not to provide > > recommendations about the various technologies, I would not ask > the > > authors to add NEW text with these considerations for each > technology. That would be over-specifying here. > > Instead, the authors may include relevant pointer are readily > > available. This is not even needed with the suggested note about > ops > > considerations are not in scope. > > > > The document includes an OAM section for one specific > technology, but > > that section is too brief and does include up-to-date specific > > pointers. Cited documents are generic or expired since a while. > > > > # Generic > > > > ## Target audience/consumer of this material > > > > I know that it is frustrating to receive this kind of comments > after > > many years of effort maintaining this doc, but I sincerely think > that > > the document lacks some words to explain the rationale of > collecting > > this material and how this is intended to be used in the IETF. > This > > clarification is specifically needed as some of the text needs > some > > refresh (see next point). Including such text will also help > > understanding the value of publishing this as an RFC (which I > suspect this might be questioned by some). > > > > ## Stale/Need to refresh > > > > The text includes stale text (e.g., pointer to specs that > expired > > several years ago, text that won't age well, text that need to > be > > refreshed to reflect progress (or lack of progress in cited > SDOs). I > > tagged some off those in my review, but I can't claim that I > tagged all of them. > > > > The text can be cleaned in several places to avoid what can be > seen as > > speculating or over-selling some efforts. > > > > ## Liaise with material owners > > > > The material included in various sections is owned by other > SDOs. > > Unless this is already done, it would be reasonable to send LSes > to at > > least 3GPP/IEEE to review relevant sections. > > > > # Detailed review > > > > A more detailed review can be found using the following links: > > > > * pdf: > > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F > gith > > ub.com%2Fboucadair%2FIETF-Drafts- > Reviews%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2F2024%2Fdraf > > t-ietf-raw-technologies-10- > rev%2520Med.pdf&data=05%7C02%7Cmohamed.bouc > > > adair%40orange.com%7C715b80d2604a4fa92bac08dcf1161da4%7C90c7a20af3 > 4b40 > > > bfbc48b9253b6f5d20%7C0%7C0%7C638650324528306025%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG > Zsb3 > > > d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0% > 3D%7 > > > C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FkBQWne80B1hr2fqyIv6rWNEujEcDuXSHpGBOYp1U0g%3D&r > eser > > ved=0 > > * doc: > > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F > gith > > ub.com%2Fboucadair%2FIETF-Drafts- > Reviews%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2F2024%2Fdraf > > t-ietf-raw-technologies-10- > rev%2520Med.doc&data=05%7C02%7Cmohamed.bouc > > > adair%40orange.com%7C715b80d2604a4fa92bac08dcf1161da4%7C90c7a20af3 > 4b40 > > > bfbc48b9253b6f5d20%7C0%7C0%7C638650324528325766%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG > Zsb3 > > > d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0% > 3D%7 > > > C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=GfdxPRKY0H1hAndQtX2EwwG9D1OTu0qnqQzBrHMsi1Q%3D&r > eser > > ved=0 > > > > Feel free to grab whatever you think useful for the document. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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