[Last-Call] Re: [Emailcore] Re: Dnsdir last call review of draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc5321bis-31

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Ted Lemon wrote in
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 |That's fair, but it seems like then it might be good to actually say that
 |in the document. As an implementor I would be inclined to treat a CNAME
 |here as invalid and ignore it based on the text as written.

Indeed i spoke nonsense and missed that this is about domain names
that come from exactly MX records.  I thought CNAME in general and
thought above 5321 2.3.5, which says

  For example, a domain may refer to an alias (label of a CNAME
  RR) or the label of Mail eXchanger records to be used to deliver
  mail instead of representing a host name.  See RFC 1035 [2] and
  Section 5 of this specification.
  ...
  Only resolvable, fully-qualified domain names (FQDNs) are
  permitted when domain names are used in SMTP.  In other words,
  names that can be resolved to MX RRs or address (i.e., A or
  AAAA) RRs (as discussed in Section 5) are permitted, as are
  CNAME RRs whose targets can be resolved, in turn, to MX or
  address RRs.  Local nicknames or unqualified names MUST NOT be
  used.

which is "crystal clear".
But then i do not understand why you struggle, since then, if it
is exactly a domain name returned via a MX record, 5321 as well as
the referenced 2181 are also very clear that in that case "never
a CNAME RR" may result from looking it up.

So *i* am silent now and take back what i said, since i can
understand the reasoning why an explicitly placed MX record shall
not go over CNAME (again), .. (on the other hand relaxing this and
suggesting "an overall loop limit" i could also understand, given
how deeply nested for example SPF records and other such new
standards explore the DNS).

  ..

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

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