Hi Roman - one of the most egregious issues with our last visit to the PRC were additional conditions and restrictions imposed upon the conference and transitively on the attendees AFTER we had signed the meeting agreement documents. Do we have a specific list of conditions we have to meet? E.g. mandatory individual logins to the ietf network? No open ietf network? Hotel providing mandatory security to prevent non-registered locals from dropping by? No VPNs permitted? Do we have a signed agreement that we will have open access to the wider internet? AIRC the conditions came as a surprise and were imposed close to the meeting date without a lot of warning and with no real recourse. Does the IESG have a line in the sand with respect to restrictions it will allow? Could you publish those please? Thanks - Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2024, at 11:43, Christian Hopps <chopps@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Unless I'm misreading this, these seem like horrible results. I guess they pass some low bar we've apparently set, but aren't there *better* choices in Asia region that don't eliminate half the people that would normally attend in person (and 62% of NA attendees)? > > I would think that we'd at least try to maximize overall participation not just make sure it meets some bare minimum (49% reduction in total on-site participation is good, really?) > > Thanks, > Chris. > > IETF Chair <chair@xxxxxxxx> writes: > >> Hi! >> >> The Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG) is appreciative of all of the >> community input provided during the July 2024 survey [1] on convening a meeting >> in China for IETF 125 (March 2026). Based on this input, the IESG has decided >> that a venue in China would meet the requirements of Section 2, “Why We Meet”, >> of RFC8718. This assessment answers the question posed in step 4b of the IETF >> LLC’s venue identification and selection process [2]. >> >> More details about this decision and the survey can be found at [3]. >> >> Regards, >> Roman >> (as IETF Chair for the IESG) >> >> [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/Og9ESsfDWrhy5Ea8tso7HfaqY5A/ >> >> [2] https://www.ietf.org/meeting/planning/ >> >> [3] https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_125_Decision_and_Survey_Summary.pdf >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IETF-Announce mailing list -- ietf-announce@xxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe send an email to ietf-announce-leave@xxxxxxxx >
