On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 12:24:51PM +0100, Jay Daley wrote: > For now at least then, we are going to continue with the plan to move > to Amazon SES for mail sending. I commented on this off-list, but on reflection, decided to send something on-list as well. This is a terrible idea. Amazon SES is one of the worst (large) email operations around: a persistent source of abuse and attacks, and unresponsive to messages sent to RFC 2142 role addresses. It's a sewer, and it has been for a long time. (It rivals googlegroups.com and onmicrosoft.com for incompetence and negligence.) The irony is that an enormously wealthy entity like Amazon could easily afford to staff it with an adequate number of people who are properly trained and who understand their professional responsibilities to the entire rest of the Internet. Amazon *could* make it an exemplar for everyone else to learn from and follow, and that'd be great; but instead they've chosen to let it be overrun and misused. There is no way that IETF should lower itself to working with this garbage fire of an operation. ---rsk
