On 5/20/2024 11:58 AM, Joel Halpern wrote:
You do know that the IDR working group does not release any
specification for IETF last call without two running (and usually
interoperating) implementations. And everyone knows going in that
will be the bar to get out.
Joel,
1. Perhaps you missed my acknowledgement that it is sometimes reasonable
to impose a Proposed requirement for having interoperable
implementations. So that's not the issue here.
2. Perhaps I didn't read carefully enough, but I do not see the
requirement you cite stated in the IDR working group charter. So it
might be operational practice, there, but it does not seem to have made
it into the formal requirements, which is an issue with the mailmaint wg
charter.
3. Given the nature of IDR technology, the importance and danger of IDR
use, and the history of IDR problems in the operational Internet, the
practice of requiring some interoperability testing before Last Call
seems frankly modest to me...
All that said, let me stress that unfortunately, your note seems wholly
irrelevant to the concerns I've expressed.
Both your note and Pete's suggests a really basic missing the point.
d/
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Dave Crocker
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