On 26-Dec-23 22:51, Shashank Yadav wrote:
Thanks. I hope its alright to revive this thread.
That's one of the great advantages of email over live messaging!
It is clear that the meeting participation has a geographic drift to it. The overall participation was highest when the meetings were done online, and generally, participation for a meeting goes up significantly from the host country/region. I'm curious if this "prison of geography" also has any economic incentives/consequences for hosts and participants, and has IETF considered ways of breaking free from it?
Without doing any kind of study, it seems to me that the IETF's geographical spread over the years broadly maps where Internet technology has been *developed*, not where it has been used. I don't mean to devalue the contributions of operators and NICs, and we always need more operators contributing to the IETF, but in general the IETF population refelects the developer population. Naturally enough, that strongly impacts the choice of meeting locations.
Brian
regards, Shashank
The task is not impossible. <https://muskdeer.blogspot.com/>
---- On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 02:25:16 +0530 *Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote ---
On 23-Nov-23 08:52, Robert Sparks wrote:
> Look into the proceedings, typically the plenary chair slides, for each of those meetings for the statistics you are searching for.
As far as I can see, the first time a pie chart of participants by country was presented was IETF 50, and it became a regular feature of plenaries a year or two later. The raw data was not public for privacy reasons. Recovering the country information before IETF 72 probably means scraping the participant lists and analysing them manually. Since then, the country is shown in the published participant lists.
Brian
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> For instance: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials/slides-99-ietf-sessb-iesgietf-chair-slides-00 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials/slides-99-ietf-sessb-iesgietf-chair-slides-00>
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> The /stats/ application in the datatracker has many known issues, particularly the further back you go in time.
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> See also https://github.com/ietf-tools/datatracker/issues/3712 <https://github.com/ietf-tools/datatracker/issues/3712>
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> RjS
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> On 11/22/23 4:10 AM, Shashank Yadav wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
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>> I was looking at IETF meeting stats and it seems that for some meetings country-wise stats are not fully available (i.e. data-tracker shows others as 0% <https://datatracker.ietf.org/stats/meeting/90/country/&; <https://datatracker.ietf.org/stats/meeting/90/country/&;>gt;). Right now it is happening from meeting 99 and before. Earlier I had encountered it for pre-106 meetings too. Is this a problem at my end alone? How can I access all the stats about country participation in (all of) the meetings?
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>> regards, Shashank
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>> The task is not impossible <https://muskdeer.blogspot.com/&; <https://muskdeer.blogspot.com/&;>gt;.
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