Hi Jay,
However, I hope also we can get more necessary strategy plans/drafts for discussion of other bodies in IETF as taken the ideas/reasons similar to this important 3 year plan (which was mentioned for IESG in the meeting118 for newcomers), which I know it is not a responsibility of LLC but is important for all IETF related bodies.Thanks for this new strategic plan and your important work on these issues/developed_trasformations. I missed this message but heard about it in the meeting118 so will reply to your referenced emails including ietf_main_list as well.
It was difficult to me to find quickly the changes/objectives within plan 2020 and 2023 [1, 2] (i.e. published pdf, and easier within data tracker to compare), but would like to get a summary of if possible. I think there are transformation changes that don't change mission and values.
my comments and questions below,
On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:52 AM IETF Executive Director <exec-director@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
The IETF Administration LLC has prepared its draft IETF Administrative Strategic Plan 2023 [1] and now seeks community feedback. This replaces the previous plan developed in 2020 [2].
I comment that IETF LLC will seek the IETF_community's llc_plan-feedback and not only the admin-discuss_community, if I am wrong please ignore all my feedback, because I take this plan_draft as similar as ietf_related_body's draft/statement of IETF.
The strategic plan is made up of the following elements, all of which are being presented for comment:
1. **Mission**. This is a literal definition of what the IETF LLC does. The mission rarely changes in the lifetime of the company.
no change for mission is important
2. **Values**. These define how the company behaves as it follows its mission. These may change over time to reflect broader social changes.
Agree but changes need to be followed up within f2f ietf meetings.
3. **Strategic Goals**. The highest priority goals of the IETF LLC. These may be short-, medium- or long-term goals or a mix. These are the big picture of what the IETF LLC is aiming to do in the next 3-5 years and so are the key setting that the board expects the company to follow.
Also I hope we get reminded within each plenary meeting of the LLC Strategic goals to understand/discuss related issues, if needed.
Furthermore, IMHO, we need within the plan to have clear Objectives that target our goals, so each goal may have a number of stated objectives.
Please add "Strategic Goals and Objectives"
Replasing "Strategic Goals"
the strategic goals changed from 7 to 8 within plan 2023 not sure why?
We need to not change sequence of the goals only if the priority is changing as well, so I see change of the goal of "journey" (in 2023 plan became number 3), so was the priority changed? if not then please maintain same sequence.
For my comment on priority sequence of goal numbers within [2], to be : 6, 1, 3, 4, 8, 7, 2, then goal 5.
4. **Strategic Transformations**. These detail the changes that need to be made in order to achieve the strategic goals. Each transformation details the current state and the desired state to transform into. These transformations should be achievable within 1-3 years.
These transformations need to be within the Mission+Value+Goals (MVG) of the LLC, and if not then we need to change one or two of the MVG to get the right transformation that maintains clear future objectives or decisions.
Within the transformation tables [2] it will be helpful if we know (add column for ) which goal(s) that transformation is targetting.
Please note that IMO New_Plan_Objectives are not clear per both plans [1,2], but if are Known we will understand better how to feedback on new plan transformations. However, IMO the authors of this plan have taken the plan_transformations as plan_objectives, but I think should be distinguished, because I think the transforming is one task of possible many within one objective.
My comments for the transformations within the 2023 plan [2], will be send to your prefered email list that is mentioned below by your email.
This email now begins a five week consultation closing on Monday 13 November. If you have any comments or questions then you can submit those by any of the following methods:
My question is what will happen after you take our comments and consultation what is the process for this new strategic plan 2023. My hope of the process is that we get feedback within the next meeting119 within plenary.
* To the public mailing list admin-discuss@xxxxxxxx (preferred)
I don't think I will name that only a public mailing list, but will name it admin-discuss-participants-mailing-list or admin-discuss-community-list, I define for community to be per IETF_Areas or IETF_lists or IETF_WGs or IETF_bodies.
however, will send comment on transformations plans to this prefered list, but IMHO that any [Mission+Value+Goals] future changes is important to comment on IETF main list jointly with your prefered ones (excluding transformation section changes).
* Direct to me at exec-director@xxxxxxxx
* Direct to the IETF LLC Board (not including me) at llc-board-only@xxxxxxxx
I hope you don't mind post/discussion within the main IETF email so we can get more good ideas, because we cannot consult any community only if the community is listening together but doing it through admin-discuss may not get feedback only from admin-interests-community and not ietf-community. Therefore, IMHO if we are consulting ietf-community we need to discuss it within IETF channel and if consulting other community as one IETF-Area then within their channels.
[1] https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_Administrative_Strategic_Plan_2023_-_Consultation_Draft.pdf
[2] https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_Administrative_Strategic_Plan_2020.pdf
Each plan can have results with published report after the end of the plan duration if needed by the IETF community. However, I think it will help in future ietf_community_feedback to help IETF_LLC development, decisions and directions. So maybe afetr 3 years 2026 we can see three references to help our feedback and help LLC. Overall, I thank you all in LLC very much for your work and support.
Thanking you,
AB
