Having only one AD makes handover and general AD life much harder. Even if responsivities and expertise are not shared, having a decided "buddy" to discuss with is really helpful. I think the Ops and management area has shown that. Further from a deconflicting point, having these groups together in one area makes actually sense to me, or at least more sense than the current area boundary. On 08.09.23, 17:22, "ietf on behalf of Mark Nottingham" <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx <mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of mnot=40mnot.net@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:40mnot.net@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Perhaps that could work. I'm still not seeing why it's preferable to the arrangement I described: one dedicated TSV AD, who relies upon multiple ADs for backup when needed. Cheers, > On 8 Sep 2023, at 5:18 pm, Tommy Pauly <tpauly@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:tpauly@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > > >> On Sep 8, 2023, at 8:14 AM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@xxxxxxxx <mailto:mnot@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: >> >> (trying to correct the CC: line) >> >>> On 8 Sep 2023, at 5:10 pm, Tommy Pauly <tpauly@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:tpauly@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>> >>> to Mark’s point, this does make the coverage/failover story a bit awkward, and I’m not sure we benefit by a having a sharp line. Since there is so much overlap in participants here, I think we could be well-served by two ADs who both work on both QUIC and HTTP/3 for example. The NomCom could be given guidance to try to make sure the AD pair isn’t too lopsided, but I think it would be cleaner to just have a unified new area. >> >> I'm concerned this would be limiting -- HTTP is more than transport, despite recent focus on that in /2 and /3. Having an AD who understands things primarily from an application protocol standpoint is something I'd be reluctant to lose. > > I certainly agree that HTTP is more than transport, but given the difficulty we’ve found in finding transport ADs over the past several years, I was imagining more that we’d end up with the two ADs for this new area potentially both leaning to be more application-focused in the lopsided case. > > Best, > Tommy > >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- >> Mark Nottingham https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-454445555731-2328097a3e27f5ac&q=1&e=c75d0d44-f557-4c56-abf0-843ebe115596&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mnot.net%2F <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-454445555731-2328097a3e27f5ac&q=1&e=c75d0d44-f557-4c56-abf0-843ebe115596&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mnot.net%2F> -- Mark Nottingham https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-454445555731-2328097a3e27f5ac&q=1&e=c75d0d44-f557-4c56-abf0-843ebe115596&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mnot.net%2F <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-454445555731-2328097a3e27f5ac&q=1&e=c75d0d44-f557-4c56-abf0-843ebe115596&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mnot.net%2F>
