Re: [Last-Call] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-24

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> From: Valery Smyslov <valery@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Artart last call review of draft-ietf-regext-rdap-
> openid-24
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> HI Scott,
>
> please see my comments (I trimmed those where we're in agreement).
>
> > > 2. In Section 3.1.1. "farv1_session/login" and "farv1_session/logout"
> > >    are used without any explanation and reference (they are defined later
> in
> > >    the document).
> >
> > [SAH] Note the complete sentence: "For session-oriented clients (see
> > Section
> > 3.1.2 and Section 5), the RDAP session is a typical HTTP session
> > starting with a farv1_session/login request and ending with either a
> > farv1_session/logout request or a timeout." The definitions are
> > provided in section 5, hence the forward reference.
>
> I see it. But I still think the text can be improved a bit. Perhaps:
>
> "For session-oriented clients (see Section 3.1.2), the RDAP session is a typical
> HTTP session starting with a farv1_session/login request and ending with
> either a farv1_session/logout request (see Section 5 for definition of both) or
> a timeout."

[SAH] OK.

> > > 3. Sequence diagrams on Figures 1 and 2 are very helpful, but I
> > > believe that they
> > >    can be even more helpful if the order of parties participating in the
> > >    protocol is the same on both figures (currently "RDAP Client" and "RDAP
> > >    Server" are swapped on Figure 1 and 2).
> >
> > [SAH] That was done deliberately because the interactions are slightly
> > different. I'll see if I can change one of the diagrams or the other
> > to make them consistent without making them more difficult to read.
>
> My point is that if the order of the parties is the same, the difference in their
> interactions will be more evident and thus more understandable (at least to
> me).

[SAH] I get it. As I said, I'll see if I can modify one of the diagrams.

> > > 4. Section 3.1.4.1: "An RDAP server/RP MUST support at least one of
> > > these methods of OP
> > >    discovery." I think that this requirement is too obvious to mention (it's
> > >    clear that the OP must be known somehow for the whole mechanism
> > > to work, and
> > >    the provided methods include manual configuration, as the last resort).
> >
> > [SAH] The MUST is needed given that the methods are described using
> > OPTIONAL or SHOULD. The MUST makes it clear that at least one is needed.
>
> My point is that it's obvious, that the OP address must be discovered
> somehow, otherwise nothing works. Thus I think that this requirement is
> superfluous (for example, you don't state "packets MUST be able to traverse
> the network"
> or "RDAP server MUST be provided with local policy"). Another part of my
> point is that RFC 2119 language is generally used to promote interoperability,
> while in this case it just defines prerequisite for the protocol to work...
>
> Anyway, this is a nit, so it's up to you.

[SAH] I'd prefer to keep it.

> > > 7. I don't know how important it is, but there is no formal requirements
> > >    for the language of the Description. Is it ok if the description
> > >    is provided in, say, Russian :-) ?
> >
> > [SAH] Interestingly, I can't find anything in RFC 8126 that addresses
> > the language used in IANA registry entries. Section 2.2 does say
> > "Strings are expected to be ASCII", but there's nothing about
> > language. I'll add "English language" to be clear: "a one- or two-sentence,
> English language description".
>
> That was my point :-)

[SAH] It's a valid one, too!

Scott
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