seems like the problem is poor signal to noise ratio. i'm not sure that will be solved by quick and easy web interface to noise creation. do we have an easy route to communicate with the spammers? like posting on this list? if they are spamming, then they are also watching and giggling. if so, perhaps we could ask them a few things; "what do you want?", "do you have a question?", and "does your mother know what you are doing?" come to mind. scott On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Ed Gerck wrote: > to save trees, please read my past messages here, the answers are there. > Thanks. > > shogunx wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Ed Gerck wrote: > > > > > >> > >>shogunx wrote: > >> > >> > >>>On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>On 23-jun-04, at 3:54, Ed Gerck wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Of course, I still believe that insisting in only using the email > >>>>>for communications and screaming "bloody murder" when it does not > >>>>>work for some reason, at some time, is very un-Internet. If you want > >>>>>only a single path, you have to live with the resulting single point of > >>>>>failure. Allowing web-based messages in addition to email is a simple > >>>>>and cost-effective way to provide redundancy and reduce the importance > >>>>>of problems such as reported by Anderson. > >>>> > >>>>The IETF has used email as its primary method of conducting its > >>>>business for almost 20 years. The IETF is also in charge of all the > >>>>relevant standards. So if email doesn't work, I think the IETF should > >>>>fix it rather than come up with ad-hoc additional communication > >>>>mechanisms that have more than enough problems of their own. > >>> > >>> > >>>I am in agreement that the mailing list mechanism should not be > >>>tampered with... it works, so don't break it. > >> > >>What I suggested could easily and seamlessly merge with the mailing > >>list, as an email that was received by a web interface. > >> > > > > > > What are you suggesting, a web-based archive of list traffic and a form on > > a website to post to ietf lists? > > > > > > > >>BTW, I'm glad you are in the first phase of problem solving -- denial. > >>I'm suggesting we move to the second phase -- investigate options to > >>solve the problem. > >> > > > > > > Please define the problem that you are attempting to solve. > > > > > > > >> > > > > sleekfreak pirate broadcast > > http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf