On Jan 5, 2023, at 11:00 AM, Tony Rutkowski <trutkowski.netmagic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > All of this may explain the lack of "boots on the ground" in the IETF. The boots have moved to other more pragmatic, real-world ground. :-) The IETF still has change control over key Internet protocols. Which means that large swaths of the Internet rely on insecure / outdated / broken protocols. And that means those protocols won't be updated, even if some efforts have moved elsewhere. Alan DeKok.
