While there have been "reported irregularities", the person making the report (Alan Brown) is a court-proven liar, and has done this sort of thing in the past. An examination of the records shows no irregularities, and the entities assigned still exist. All the facts are already publicly known. The claim of being "hijacked/disused" is false. It is also publicly known that Mr. Brown, Mr. Sullivan, and Mr. Vixie have blacklisted companies that aren't spammers in the past. Both Mr. Brown and Mr. Vixie have been forced to retract those false claims by lawsuits, and have risked or actually lost significant amounts of personal assets in damages. Mr. Vixie's obvious malice for Av8 Internet is plain to see, as is his association with SORBS, Brown, Sullivan, and other disreputable characters. Av8 has been through the legal "mill" and hired lawyers on the subject, but that does not make it an expert on lawsuits. If Av8 were "expert" on lawsuits, we'd be able to practice law ourselves instead of hiring lawyers. Av8 is a expert on Open Relay operations, and on providing internet services to customers. However, it is unclear what Mr. Vixie's expertise is actually in, other than name-calling, and making disparaging alterations on another companies trademarks. I have seen little else. I suppose Vixie is also an expert at making false claims and using blacklists to block companies that aren't spammers. Dean Anderson Av8 Internet, Inc On 19 Jun 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: > stephen@xxxxxxxxxx ("Stephen Sprunk") writes: > > ... > > Dean's problem is that he sends mail from an open relay, which isc.org's > > servers block completely ... > > actually i think the reason dv8's ip address listed on SORBS is due to > reported irregularities in the trust deed for that address block, rather > than due to reported open relay activities. maybe dv8 will eventually > sue somebody, so that a court can sort it all out and all the facts can > be objectively and publically known. > > a note for harald and the others-- i've been lawsuit-threated by experts, > and i can tell you from that experience, dv8 appears to not be an expert. > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf