Re: [Last-Call] Bullying and "Fashionable"

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Can we not have this discussion on this forum, please, which is for Last Calls.

-Ekr


On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 7:42 PM Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As an aside here, the problem with bullying behavior is that it can lead to sloppiness and to argument by intimidation rather than getting things really right.

Having done real politics fairly seriously at one point, I have a pretty thick hide. But many people don't and here is the problem, folk who experience intimidation often seem to learn that is the way to win arguments. And in the process, they end up shutting down arguments rather than trying to understand them.

If someone wants to ridicule me because of my work of 20 years back, well, the fact people are still using it might make it worth while to ask why. And I can probably give a longer list of reasons why they suck than the critics and I can also explain why we took the approach we did because the alternatives also suck but in different ways.

What really did give me pause for thought however was someone attacking me in a different forum for being 'out-dated', in particular holding unfashionable views against stream ciphers.

What would happen in the security area if we allowed people to start winning arguments according to popularity? What if everyone suddenly decided that the fashionable thing was really great and anyone who criticized it was clearly stupid and ignorant?

Why we might just end up with, oh I don't know, maybe a $2 trillion ponzi scheme about to collapse and take millions of people's savings with it because they were told that reinventing money...

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