Re: HTTP is a domain name

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--On Monday, August 29, 2022 08:38 -0400 Timothy Mcsweeney
<tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
>> On 08/29/2022 8:30 AM EDT Olaf Kolkman <kolkman@xxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> On 29 Aug 2022, at 14:15, Timothy Mcsweeney wrote:
>> 
>> >> On 8/29/22 07:33, Timothy Mcsweeney wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> Do you agree with the title?
>> >> 
>> >> No.   And I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
>> > 
>> > The point I'm trying to make is that HTTP is a domain name
>> > with no  specific location and I wanted to see what the
>> > people on this list  thought of that premise.
>> 
>> What is  the conclusion you want to base on the premise?
>>...

> That the characters of a URI are in fact domain names and need
> to resolved before making sense of anything else.

If that is the issue, then the answer is to a slightly different
set of questions:

Q: Could the string of characters, "HTTP", be used as a domain
name label?   
A: Yes, of course, because that question is  probably about the
syntax rules for domain names.

Q: Is "HTTP" valid as a TLD label?
A: That is an administrative question, not a technical one.  The
answer, as of this instant, is "no".  The attempts to use DNS or
registry database lookup tools to answer your question appear to
me to be attempts to demonstrate that answer but maybe those who
showed them in messages had other ideas in mind.

Q: Can one determine whether a string is a "domain name" (and
should be treated as one, e.g., looking it up in the DNS with or
without "completion") by looking at in isolation, without
lexical or other context?  
A: Of course not.   If the answer were "yes", it would lead
directly to questions like "What is a 'tim'?" or, more extremely
and with apologies to anyone given that name very early in life,
"What is a 'karen'?"  Other examples occur to me that would
probably get me in trouble with the Moderators.

Q: If "HTTP" were somehow intrinsically a domain name, what
relatively short strings consisting entirely of ASCII letters
and digits would not be?
A: Null set


best,
   john







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