Re: [Last-Call] [Add] Last Call: <draft-ietf-add-ddr-07.txt> (Discovery of Designated Resolvers) to Proposed Standard

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Hi Rob,

 

We used to have some cellular considerations in DNR but the WG considered these aspects as deployment specific and agreed to move them into a separate doc.

 

Cheers,

Med

 

De : last-call <last-call-bounces@xxxxxxxx> De la part de Rob Sayre
Envoyé : lundi 27 juin 2022 04:32
À : Martin Thomson <mt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Objet : Re: [Last-Call] [Add] Last Call: <draft-ietf-add-ddr-07.txt> (Discovery of Designated Resolvers) to Proposed Standard

 

Hi,

 

I was also surprised to see no mention of cellular networks in the Security Considerations. Did I miss something? This is a little different from voluntarily joining a WiFi network.

 

It doesn't come up in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-add-ddr/ or  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-add-dnr/, as far as I can tell. I don't know whether the WG considered this issue.

 

thanks,

Rob

 

 

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 7:09 PM Martin Thomson <mt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

I've only loosely followed the progress of this document in the ADD working group.

I think that it is a good mechanism and it is clear that a lot of effort has been put in to ensure that it is clear, readable, and comprehensive.  However, there is an issue that should block publication until it is resolved.

It's a small thing, but there is no requirement that the TLS certificate offered by the designated resolver chains to a trust anchor at the client.  I'm guessing that this is just an oversight as I see that implementations are doing the right thing; see https://github.com/ietf-wg-add/draft-ietf-add-ddr/issues/66

I've opened another issue regarding modification attacks for "dohpath", but I believe that is down to clarity of text rather than a similar omission.

Cheers,
Martin

On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 03:29, The IESG wrote:
> The IESG has received a request from the Adaptive DNS Discovery WG (add) to
> consider the following document: - 'Discovery of Designated Resolvers'
>   <draft-ietf-add-ddr-07.txt> as Proposed Standard
>
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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> Abstract
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>
>    This document defines Discovery of Designated Resolvers (DDR), a
>    mechanism for DNS clients to use DNS records to discover a resolver's
>    encrypted DNS configuration.  This mechanism can be used to move from
>    unencrypted DNS to encrypted DNS when only the IP address of a
>    resolver is known.  This mechanism is designed to be limited to cases
>    where unencrypted resolvers and their designated resolvers are
>    operated by the same entity or cooperating entities.  It can also be
>    used to discover support for encrypted DNS protocols when the name of
>    an encrypted resolver is known.
>
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> The file can be obtained via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-add-ddr/
>
> This document also relies on
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-add-svcb-dns/ and the ADD
> WG has another document
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-add-dnr/, which should
> probably be reviewed at the same time.
>
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