This isn't really a serious resolution. It smacks exactly of the Army's response to the red cross over abuse at Abu Graib. For months, the Army has said it responded promptly to the Red Cross' written complaints. Today, in the NY Times, it was revealed what the response was: Tell us when you are coming, and we will hide the abuse before you get here. A personal attack is "infantile", "irresponsible", and "immature". Calling a personal attack what it is, it not itself a personal attack. Talk about going through the looking glass. --Dean On Tue, 18 May 2004, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: > Mr. Anderson, > > I note that your use of the terms "infantile", "irresponsible" and > "immature" are personal attacks. These are inappropriate for the IETF list. > > If you have serious complaints to make that you feel require you to use > these terms, send them to me privately. > > If you want to send mail to the public IETF list, be civil. > > You have been warned. > > Harald Alvestrand > > --On 18. mai 2004 18:36 -0400 Dean Anderson <dean@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Sigh. > > > > Harald, Please add __Another__ complaint to the chair about inappropriate > > behavior by Mr. Vixie. > > > > Oh wait, could it be that lying to the general public saying our address > > space is hijacked is a personal attack? Hmm. Maybe they aren't as > > 'perfessional' as they made out to be. Maybe these attacks aren't as > > unrelated to the IETF as the Chair asserts. > > > > I guess those that have to resort to name-calling don't have anything else > > ot resort to, since they can't resort to facts. And of course, indeed, no > > contrary _facts_ have been given. Well, Vixie hasn't changed in 15 years, > > still as infantile as ever. > > > > And these irresponsible and immature people have operational control of a > > root nameserver. How did that ever happen? That too, should be changed. > > > > --Dean > > > > On 17 May 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: > > > >> dean@xxxxxxx (Dean Anderson) writes: > >> > >> > ... For the less technical, an exchange point is ... > >> > >> I don't think there's anyone on this list less technical than you, Dean. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf