RE: [savnet] WG Review: Source Address Validation in Intra-domain and Inter-domain Networks (savnet)

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Hi Stephen,

We use the term of "source address validation" because when validating a packet, the packet actually carries an "address" instead of a "prefix". However, as Joel explained, the proposed solution works in the control plane, and it does not expose any user-level privacy when exchanging information between routers or ASes.

It just likes that when forwarding a packet by looking up the FIB. Every packet has a destination "address" but the FIB is organized with "prefix" as the key.

If there is still confusion, I am wondering whether we can change "source address validation" to "source prefix validation".

Best,
Dan

-----邮件原件-----
发件人: savnet-bounces@xxxxxxxx <savnet-bounces@xxxxxxxx> 代表 Stephen Farrell
发送时间: 2022年6月4日 4:48
收件人: Joel Halpern <jmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Alvaro Retana' <aretana.ietf@xxxxxxxxx>; iesg@xxxxxxxx; 'IETF-Discussion' <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
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主题: Re: [savnet] WG Review: Source Address Validation in Intra-domain and Inter-domain Networks (savnet)


Hi Joel,

On 03/06/2022 21:38, Joel Halpern wrote:
> While working groups can do all sorts of things, the expected results 
> of this work would be a new or extended mechanisms for routers to tell 
> other routers what address prefixes

Clarifying question: if prefixes are what are being validated why does the name mention addresses and the text "current SAV mechanisms" (where A==address presumably)?

Ta,
S.

> they will be using as source address
> for packets they will be forwarding. These are not the individual 
> addresses of users. And, conversely, this is exactly the information 
> one needs to perform source address spoof prevention.   (Whether the 
> proposed / expected mechanisms will actually provide improved 
> information is part of what has to be determined.)
> 
> Further, we have specified that the problem and requirements will be 
> spelled out before any solutions are examined by the working group.  
> So we can confirm that there is indeed a problem to solve.
> 
> This is not "extend SAVI individual host registrations into ISPs."  I 
> have no problem including privacy in the analysis.  But I am much less 
> concerned than I was (and yes Stephen, I did take your concerns
> seriously) when we did the SAVI work.
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Joel





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