Re: [Last-Call] RtgDir Last Call review: draft-ietf-opsawg-sap-04

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Hi Mach, 

Thank you for checking. All the changes are available in -05.

BTW, it seems that your review is not tracked (still displayed as incomplete): https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-sap/reviewrequest/15831/ 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Mach Chen <mach.chen@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Envoyé : mardi 17 mai 2022 08:43
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@xxxxxxxxxx>;
> rtg-dir@xxxxxxxx
> Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-sap.all@xxxxxxxx; opsawg@xxxxxxxx; last-
> call@xxxxxxxx
> Objet : RE: RtgDir Last Call review: draft-ietf-opsawg-sap-04
> 
> Hi Med,
> 
> Thanks for considering my comments, I am OK with your resolution.
> 
> Best regards,
> Mach
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mohamed.boucadair@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mohamed.boucadair@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 8:21 PM
> > To: Mach Chen <mach.chen@xxxxxxxxxx>; rtg-dir@xxxxxxxx
> > Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-sap.all@xxxxxxxx; opsawg@xxxxxxxx;
> > last-call@xxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: RtgDir Last Call review: draft-ietf-opsawg-sap-04
> >
> > Hi Mach,
> >
> > Thank you for the review. The changes to address the review can
> be tracked at:
> > https://tinyurl.com/sap-latest
> >
> > Please see inline.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Med
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : last-call <last-call-bounces@xxxxxxxx> De la part de Mach
> Chen
> > > Envoyé : jeudi 12 mai 2022 11:11 À : rtg-dir@xxxxxxxx Cc :
> > > draft-ietf-opsawg-sap.all@xxxxxxxx; opsawg@xxxxxxxx; last-
> > > call@xxxxxxxx Objet : [Last-Call] RtgDir Last Call review:
> > > draft-ietf-opsawg-
> > > sap-04
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for
> this
> > > draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or
> > > routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and
> IESG
> > > review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the
> review
> > > is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more
> information
> > > about the Routing Directorate, please see
> > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir
> > >
> > > Although these comments are primarily for the use of the
> Routing
> > > ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with
> any
> > > other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to
> > > resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft.
> > >
> > > Document: draft-ietf-opsawg-sap-04
> > > Reviewer: Mach Chen
> > > Review Date: 2022/05/15
> > > IETF LC End Date:
> > > Intended Status: Standards Track
> > >
> > > Summary:
> > > I have some minor concerns about this document that I think
> should
> > > be resolved before publication.
> > >
> > > Major Issues:
> > > None
> > >
> > > Minor Issues:
> > > 1. Section 2, the definition of Service Attachment Point (SAP)
> is
> > > hard to understand here, the definition depends on the
> definition of
> > > "service's endpoint" and "TP" that is not defined in the
> document or
> > > lack of references(if defined in other documents).
> > > More text needed here and it's better to make it consistent
> with the
> > > definition in other places (e.g., Introduction section).
> >
> > [Med] Updated the text to:
> >
> > NEW:
> >    Service Attachment Points (SAPs):  An abstraction of the
> network
> >       reference points (e.g., PE side of an AC) where network
> services
> >       can be delivered and/or being delivered to customers.
> >
> > >
> > > 2. Section 3,
> > > " The
> > >    model is also used to retrieve the network points where a
> service
> > > is
> > >    being delivered to customers."
> > > What's the meaning of the "network points" here? Is it a node,
> link,
> > > interface or something else, some clarification needed here,
> or
> > > using a more specific and well-known term here.
> > >
> >
> > [Med] An example was added to updated definition provided above.
> >
> > > 3. Section 4, " Also, the SAP is not a tunnel termination
> point
> > > (TTP) (Section 3.6 of
> > >    [RFC8795]) nor a link." Why need to state this here, maybe
> it's
> > > better to move it to the place of the definition of "SAP".
> >
> > [Med] We prefer to maintain it here as this section is about
> > positioning the model vs. existing models.
> >
> > >
> > > 4. identity basic-connectivity {
> > >        base vpn-common:service-type;
> > >        description
> > >          "Basic IP connectivity. This is, for example, a plain
> > >           connectivity offered to Enterprises over a dedicated
> > >           or shared MPLS infrastructure."; Since it's a "IP
> > > connectivity", why emphasize that it is over an "MPLS"
> > > infrastructure?
> > >
> >
> > [Med] That was just an example.
> >
> > > Nits:
> > > 1. Abstract section, the second sentence of paragraph, s/ The
> > > Service Attachment Points/SAPs
> >
> > [Med] OK
> >
> >
> > 2. Section 1, the last 3rd para,
> > > it's better to add references when mention L2VPN and L3VPN
> >
> > [Med] Added a pointer to RFC4026.
> >
> >
> > 3.
> > > Section 3, suggest to add a reference to EVPN.
> >
> > [Med] Several EVPN-related are provided in Section 5 with
> explicit
> > association with the EVPN flavor.
> >
> > > 4. Section 5, suggest to add the references to LAG, IRB.
> >
> > [Med] OK
> >
> > > 5. identity virtual-network,  suggest to copy the description
> of
> > > "Virtual Network" from RFC 8453.
> >
> > [Med] Went with the following:
> >
> > OLD:
> >       "Virtual network.";
> > NEW:
> >       "Virtual network. Refers to a logical network instance
> >        that is built over a physical network.";
> >
> > > 6. It's better to add more text to the description of identity
> phy,
> > > loopback, lag and irb.
> >
> > [Med] These are well-known and well-established. I don't think
> we need
> > to say much here, but will see. Thanks.
> >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Mach
> > >
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