Re: [Last-Call] [Anima] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-09

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Hi Jürgen,
On 05-Apr-22 20:36, Jürgen Schönwälder wrote:
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Now I am confused. I expected you to require more text here.

Something seems to be missing in the description of the base line scenario,
and I need more info to understand what the missing pieces are.

I think it is rather obvious for people familiar with IPv6 that (i) if
you don't have the Registrar's address you can't talk to it and (ii)
if the Registrar is multiple hops away, you can't talk to it. Things
that are less obvious are the assumptions made about how devices are
connected. Apparently (if I understand your response) we are not
talking about devices joining a regular wireless LAN, i.e., a shared
link. This is where I got lost, i.e., in which scenario such a Join
Proxy is applicable. It is not about more or less text, but text that
helps me to figure out whether this is applicable to my networks or
not.

This may or may not help, but our general assumption in Anima is that
when bootstrapping a network there is *nothing* in place except
IPv6 link-local addressing, i.e. there is no layer 3 forwarding
anywhere. It's only after the secure joining has happened that the
layer 3 forwarding can be put in place for traffic to and from
the newly joined node. In the general case the layer 2 topology
could be anything, so the mechanisms have to avoid any assumptions
about topology.

The join proxy itself was a pledge when first switched on, until
it discovered it had other links so it needed to behave as a join
proxy too.

(I can see some issues with that as applied in a pure mesh
network, where we'd need a mechanism to prevent every pledge
also becoming a join proxy.)

Regards
   Brian

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