John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > I actually don't think it interacts much with 2026 although I do wonder It's not so much that it interacts with 2026,etc. so much as that those documents are wrong. > is contributing to general delays and some people's sense that it is > impossible to get real work done in the IETF in any efficient and > timely way. I would say that it's contributing to a sense that people don't know what the flavour of the day is. > While, as work-proposing mechanisms, the tone is certainly different > (especially along the fear of being attacked dimension you mention), > I'm not sure whether HotRFC is significantly different from the BarBOFs > of yesteryear. Actual BarBOFs, in bars with napkins and beer (and no remote things to get in the way), would be before HotRFC :-) -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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