Hi Matt, Toerless,
Thank you both for your guidance. We will proceed as suggested.
Best regards, Carsten
Am 02.02.2022 um 08:32 schrieb Matt
Joras:
Hi Carsten,
I don't have a good answer unfortunately. In my opinion the mentions of QUIC and HTTP/3 don't add a lot, and feel a bit bolted on so to speak. This is of course understandable given the relatively recent standardization of QUIC itself and the lack of testing experience with it and the numerous implementations.
If it were me I would perhaps instead make a note of QUIC as a potential transport protocol for HTTP, and acknowledge that the document will not attempt to enumerate specific testing procedures for it. The current text probably would not lead to useful results for QUIC performance testing relative to TCP.
That's my two cents anyway.
Matt Joras
On Tue, Feb 1, 2022, 11:14 PM Carsten Rossenhoevel <cross@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Matt,
Thank you for your review!
We added QUIC to the draft during one of the BMWG sessions based on
suggestions from the attendees. The authors are a bit unsure how to fix
the draft that's up for approval so that it would be precise and fully
compliant with QUIC environments.
Do you have any specific suggestions how to correct the text, keeping
QUIC in scope?
Alternatively, we could remove QUIC references and take it out of scope
and cover it in a future amendment. Not the best solution, but after
more than three years of drafting with so many contributors, we would
like to avoid opening a new discussion area that would likely delay the
work by another year.
Best regards, Carsten
Am 2/1/2022 um 5:40 PM schrieb Matt Joras via Datatracker:
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> Nits/editorial comments:
>
> Section 4.3.1.1
> This section details TCP stack attributes in great detail. However,
> subsequently HTTP/3 and QUIC are both mentioned in 4.3.1.3.. QUIC is in need of
> tuning just as much as TCP, if not more.
>
> " HTTP/3 emulated browser uses QUIC ([RFC9000]) as transport protocol." should
> be reworded, and I'm not exactly sure what it is trying to convey.
>
> "Depending on test scenarios and selected HTTP version, HTTP header compression
> MAY be set to enable or disable." should probably read " be enabled or
> disabled."
>
> Similarly in sections 7, there is a lot of specific mention of TCP connections,
> TCP RSTs, FINs, etc. and continued mentioning of HTTP. Since QUIC is a
> significant carrier of HTTP traffic it seems these sections should not be so
> specific to TCP. Especially since it seems as though for these kinds of devices
> their limits may very well be different for UDP or TCP flows.
>
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