Reviewer: Dale Worley Review result: Ready with Nits I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more information, please see the FAQ at <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/gen/wiki/GenArtfaq>. Document: draft-ietf-kitten-tls-channel-bindings-for-tls13-09 Reviewer: Dale R. Worley Review Date: 2021-10-14 IETF LC End Date: 2021-10-15 IESG Telechat date: (not known) Summary: This draft is basically ready for publication, but has nits that should be fixed before publication. Nits/editorial comments: 1. Introduction The "unique" channel binding types defined in [RFC5929] were found to Given that this is the introduction and RFC 5929 is referenced without its title, it would help the naive reader to change "channel binding types" to "channel binding types for TLS". The use of "unique" seems to refer to both (1) the names of the channel binding types contain the word "unique" and (2) they are "unique" channel bindings in the terminology of RFC 5056. It seems like this sentence should be expanded to make both references clear, or at least to point to RFC 5056 as well. Furthermore, this document updates [RFC5929] by adding an additional unique channel binding type that replaces some usage of "tls-unique". It seems worthwhile to provide the name of the new binding type here. (And notice that it is "unique" in the sense of RFC 5056 but does not contain "unique" in its name. I'm a little surprised you didn't name it "tls-unique-exporter" to maintain the parallelism.) 2. The 'tls-exporter' Channel Binding Type Context value: Empty context value. Since RFC 5705 allows the context value to be absent, and also to be a byte string of arbitrary length including 0, it might be less ambiguous to say "Zero-length string". SCRAM [RFC5802] and GSS-API over SASL [RFC5801] define "tls-unique" as the default channel binding to use over TLS. As "tls-unique" is not defined for TLS 1.3 (and greater), this document updates [RFC5801] and [RFC5802] to use "tls-exporter" as the default channel binding over TLS 1.3 (and greater). It seems like this paragraph should be promoted to be its own section with an extremely descriptive title like "TLS 1.3 with SCRAM and with GSS-API over SASL". 3. Security Considerations Implementations MUST NOT use the channel binding to protect secret information. It's not clear to me that channel binding has any purpose other than "to protect secret information". I suspect that you mean something like "the channel binding data MUST NOT be used as a key to protect secret information". And that statement is essentially the same as the last sentence of section 3.1; indeed perhaps that sentence should be moved to section 3 to replace the existing sentence. 3.1. Use with Legacy TLS extra precaution must be taken to ensure that the chosen cipher suites always result in unique master secrets. The appearance of this paragraph in this section suggests (but does not assert) that in TLS 1.3, the cipher negotiation always results in unique master secrets. Indeed, it would be extremely convenient if (standard-conformant) use of TLS 1.3 always did so, and if so, it would be convenient to inform the user by asserting that at the end of section 2 (after moving the current last paragraph to a different section). [END] -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call