Re: [Tools-discuss] Content at notes.ietf.org is not archival

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Minutes are not the only notes taken at notes.ietf.org. I would stop using it, if things would simply disappear, obviously. How is this a good idea?


On 16.09.21 23:09, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
On 17-Sep-21 07:22, Michael Richardson wrote:

Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
     >> On 16. Sep 2021, at 09:46, Mark Nottingham <mnot@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
     >>
     >> Or, just automatically delete notes 30 days after creation.

     > (Again, I don’t know whether this was a serious proposal.
  I’ll treat
     > is as such for the purpose of this message.)

Well, I'm serious.
I think 30 days might be way too long.

WG and design team leaders should know to download minutes at the end of the
session.  It's not hard.
But, in order to train that, the contents needs to disappear within the
day,
and there will be some crying.   Some WG session minutes will go away.

One day is too short; back in the good old days, when most of us suffered
jet lag after each meeting, a week to capture the minutes and copy-edit
them was hardly enough. But I do agree, this is a major duty of WG chairs
or secretaries, and needs to be done promptly.

I wouldn't call it notes.ietf.org. I'd call it temp.ietf.org. Or at least,
put everything in notes.ietf.org/temp/ and move it to notes.ietf.org/recycle/
after 30 days and then to /dev/null after another 30 days. Something like
that, anyway, depending on how it would integrate with HedgeDoc.

    Brian

     > Collecting notes in our own service (as opposed to hackmd.io or Google
     > docs) gives us more control.  Another benefit of having a common
     > service is that, after a while, everybody knows how to use it and
we
     > can integrate it into other tools.

Agreed.







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