Re: [Last-Call] [alto] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-16

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Hi Thomas,

Thanks for the very nice review! Please see our responses inline.

Thanks,
Jensen


On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:28 AM Thomas Fossati via Datatracker <noreply@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Reviewer: Thomas Fossati
Review result: Ready with Nits

# Abstract

I suggest to slightly increase the precision:

OLD
   [...] This document defines an FCI
   protocol using the Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO)
   protocol, following the guidelines defined in RFC 8008.

NEW
   [...] This document defines a new Application-Layer Traffic
   Optimization (ALTO) service called "CDNI Advertisement Service" that
   provides an implementation of the FCI, following the guidelines
   defined in RFC 8008.

Thanks for the suggestion. We will update the abstract.
 

# Section 2.1

While, in general, I have found the introduction and background section to
contain very clear and valuable information about context, rationale and
high level requirements and features, I am having some trouble parsing
this bit:

      [...] Multiple
      footprint constraints are additive, i.e., the advertisement of
      different types of footprint narrows the dCDN candidacy
      cumulatively.

Maybe it's just me, but I'd have appreciated if you could unpack this a
little.

Thanks for the feedback. We will change this sentence as follows:

NEW

   [...] Different types of footprint
   constraints can be combined together to narrow the dCDN candidacy, i.e., the
   uCDN should consider the dCDN a candidate only if the request routing source
   satisfies all the types of footprint constraints in the advertisement.
 

# Section 2.2

For identification it's not the integrity property of signatures that
you care about but origin authentication:

OLD
   o  Security: The identification between uCDNs and dCDNs is an
      important requirement.  ALTO maps can be signed and hence provide
      inherent integrity protection.  Please see Section 8.

NEW
   o  Security: The identification between uCDNs and dCDNs is an
      important requirement.  ALTO maps can be signed and hence provide
      inherent origin authentication.  Please see Section 8.

Fixed.
 

It is not clear to a newcomer why a RESTful design is listed as one of
the criteria for choosing ALTO.  Please be more specific about the
advantages.  E.g., it's a good fit with the rest of the CDNI suite and
therefore reduces the cognitive dissonance for users and developers
alike?  It allows at least some level of code reuse? 

Thanks for the suggestion. We will add the following sentence into this bullet to make the benefit clear:

   [...] It can provide the consistent
   client-server interaction model for other existing CDNI interfaces or
   potential future extensions and therefore reduce the learning cost for both
   users and developers, although they are not in the scope of this
   document. A CDNI FCI interface ...
 


Typo:

OLD
      [...] A CDNI FCI interface based on ALTO
      would inherit this this extensive error-handling framework.

NEW
      [...] A CDNI FCI interface based on ALTO
      would inherit this extensive error-handling framework.

Thanks. Fixed.
 

At this point in the document it may not be necessarily evident what
"the new endpoint property for ALTO" is -- at least to a newcomer.  I
suggest sticking a reference to I-D.ietf-alto-unified-props-new when
the term is first introduced.

Good suggestion. Fixed.
 

# Section 3

I suggest adding a note regarding I-JSON (as per RFC 8008).

We will add the following note before Sec 3.1:

   Note that the encoding of BaseAdvertisementObject exactly reuses the one
   defined in [RFC8008] and therefore also follows the recommendations of I-JSON
   (Internet JSON) [RFC7493], which is required by [RFC8008].
 

# Section 3.1

Is this the only CDNI interface envisaged in ALTO?  If the answer is
either "no" or "I don't know", it's probably better being more specific
WRT the name choice of the media type -- e.g.,
"application/alto-cdni-advertisement+json"?

We do consider providing other CDNI interfaces in ALTO. But we think "advertisement" can be a common and default CDNI functionality that is considered to be delivered using ALTO.
Therefore we assign "application/alto-cdni+json" to it. But indeed, your suggestion is also convincing. We will work with other IANA and CDNI experts to update it.
 

# Section 3.2

Is there any specific recommendation regarding caching of these
resources?

Can you explain more? ALTO is based on HTTP and therefore can reuse HTTP cache control. Is it what you are looking for?
 

# Section 3.5

   The "uses" field SHOULD NOT appear unless the CDNI Advertisement
   resource depends on other ALTO information resources

If the semantic of uses is not defined without an explicit resource
dependency why should you allow that?  I.e., why is this not a MUST NOT
rather than just a SHOULD NOT?

You are right. We will use MUST NOT instead.
 

# Section 3.6

Expand IRD.  Maybe a better place to introduce the acronym is in Section
3.

Thanks for the catch. Fixed.
 

What is the semantics of a CDNIAdvertisementData with empty
capabilities-with-footprints?  (I suggest you provide a one-liner that
presents the context in which that would be meaningful.)

Good suggestion. We will add the following note at the end of the 4th paragraph:

   If the value of this
   property is an empty array, it means the corresponding dCDN cannot provide any
   mandatory-to-implement CDNI capabilities for any footprints.
 

What is the semantics of ""global" coverage"?  Is it what is
contractually (i.e., OOB) defined for the dCDN?

We append the following explanation:

   [...] "global" coverage, i.e., the corresponding dCDN can provide them for any request routing source.
 

This text:
   To be self-contained, below is a non-normative specification of
   BaseAdvertisementObject.

I don't understand the "non-normative" bit: isn't this normatively
describing the syntax that implements the semantics defined in the CDNI
doc?

"non-normative" may be confusing. We just want to introduce the encoding using the consistent notation used in other ALTO-related documents.
How about we change this sentence to the following:

NEW:

   To be self-contained, below is an equivalent specification of
   BaseAdvertisementObject described in the ALTO-style notation (see Section 8.2 of
   [RFC7285]). [...]
 

I am having a hard time parsing this text:

   Note: Further optimization of BaseAdvertisement objects to
   effectively provide the advertisement of capabilities with footprint
   restrictions is certainly possible.

what optimisation are hinted here?  And what is their relation with the
examples?  Are those associated with the use of altopid?  If so, you
should consider adding a forward reference to section 4.1 here.

Example 1 contains two BaseAdvertisementObject objects for delivery protocol http/1.1 and https/1.1 respectively.
But they have the same footprint constraints.
Example 2 merges them to a single BaseAdvertisementObject.
It has not been associated with altopid yet.
Do you think we need to illustrate the examples more?
 

# Section 3.7.3

Typo:

OLD
  due to maintenance of the https/1.1 clusters

NEW
  due to maintenance of the http/1.1 clusters

Fixed.
 

# Section 3.7.3

At the end of:

   A benefit of using ALTO to provide CDNI Advertisement resources is
   that such resources can be updated using ALTO incremental updates

maybe add a reference to RFC8895 (also, I think RFC8895 should be
normatively referenced rather than just informatively?)

Good catch. We will update it.
 

There seems to be a typo in the example:

OLD
    data:     "capabilities": [
    data:       {
    data:         "capability-type": "FCI.DeliveryProtocol",

NEW
    data:     "capabilities-with-footprints": [
    data:       {
    data:         "capability-type": "FCI.DeliveryProtocol",


Fixed. 
 

# Section 5.3

The definition:

  [CDNIFCICapability cdni-capabilities<0..*>;]

looks a bit odd.  I'd have thought one of

  CDNIFCICapability cdni-capabilities<0..*>;

or

  [CDNIFCICapability cdni-capabilities<1..*>;]

would give the client all it needs to say: "give me the full resource".

Thanks for the suggestion. To be consistent with other ALTO services, we will change it to the former one.
 


Typo:

OLD
    cdni-fci-capabilities:  A list of CDNI capabilities defined in

NEW
    cdni-capabilities:  A list of CDNI capabilities defined in


Fixed.
 

# Section 5.6

Maybe put the conditional clause first:

OLD
   The response MUST indicate an error, using ALTO protocol error
   handling specified in Section 8.5 of the ALTO protocol [RFC7285], if
   the request is invalid.

NEW
   If the request is invalid, the response MUST indicate an error
   using the ALTO protocol error handling specified in Section 8.5
   of [RFC7285].


Fixed. 
 

   [...] a filtered CDNI Advertisement request is invalid if:

      o  the value of "capability-type" is null;

      o  the value of "capability-value" is null;

What if one of capability-type or capability-value is missing?  What if
one of them is the empty value for the type or if any mandatory fields
are missing?  What if the value in "capability-type" is not known?  It'd
seem to me that the conditions that can make a request invalid can be
many more than those currently listed.  And in general I'd leave the
decision to the server.

Here we just discuss the E_INVALID_FIELD_VALUE error because this is the only case that [RFC7285] does not define how to commonly handle.

For missing field cases, the ALTO server returns E_MISSING_FIELD. For other cases, the ALTO server returns E_INVALID_FIELD_TYPE.
 

Typo (same as above):

OLD
   superset of one of CDNI capability object in "cdni-fci-capabilities".

NEW
   superset of one of CDNI capability object in "cdni-capabilities".

Fixed.
 

# Section 5.7.3

(also in Sections 6.3.2 and 6.3.3)

Typo:

OLD
    HOST: alto.example.com

NEW
    Host: alto.example.com


Fixed.
 

# Section 6.1

   o  According to [I-D.ietf-alto-unified-props-new], "ipv4" and "ipv6"
      are two predefined entity domain types, which can be used to
      represent "ipv4cidr" and "ipv6cidr" footprints respectively.

AFAIU, for both ipv4 and ipv6, unified-props-new makes an encoding
distinction between individual and hierarchical addresses.  However,
ipv4cidr and ipv6cidr are always encoded as CIDR blocks, so the mapping
is not perfect and need a small adjustment (e.g., 192.0.2.1 =>
192.0.2.1/32).  Maybe this is worth noting?

Very good catch! We will append a note and an additional example to illustrate it.
 

# Section 7.1

The alignment in Table 1 is quite atrocious :-)  Also, in the
Specification column rather than just "Section N", consider using
"Section N of RFCthis" -- same as you do in Table 2 and 3.

Fixed.
 

# Section 7.2

OLD
   As proposed in Section 7.2 of [RFC8006], "CDNI Metadata Footprint
   Types" registry is requested.  A new footprint type is to be
   registered, listed in Table 2.

NEW
   IANA is requested to add the footprint type "altopid" described
   in Table 2 to the "CDNI Metadata Footprint Types" registry.

Fixed.
 

# Section 7.3

OLD
   As proposed in Section 11.2 of [I-D.ietf-alto-unified-props-new],
   "ALTO Entity Domain Type Registry" is requested.  Two new entity
   domain types are to be registered, listed in Table 3.

NEW
   IANA is requested to add the entity domain types "asn" and
   "countrycode" described in Table 3 to the "ALTO Entity Domain Type"
   registry.

Also, please fix the alignment of the "Entity Address Encoding" column
in Table 3.

Fixed.
 

# Section 7.4

OLD
   As proposed in Section 11.3 of [I-D.ietf-alto-unified-props-new],
   "ALTO Entity Property Type Registry" is required.  A new entity
   property type is to be registered, listed in Table 4.

NEW
   IANA is requested to add the identifier "cdni-capabilities"
   described in Table 4 to the "ALTO Entity Property Type" registry.


Fixed.
 
# Section 8

OLD
   Although protection strategies as described in Section 15 of
   [RFC7285] should be applied to address aforementioned security
   considerations, [...]

NEW
   Although protection strategies as described in Section 15 of
   [RFC7285] should be applied to address aforementioned security
   and privacy considerations, [...]


Fixed.
 


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