Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technical discussion.

[Lloyd W <lloyd.wood=40yahoo.co.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Rob,

simply put, that's the short version - based on, but often not needing to repeat, the more expansive GitHub policy version at

https://docs.github.com/en/github/site-policy/github-community-guidelines

-- which Microsoft manages, since Microsoft owns GitHub, so IETF use of GitHub falls under all of those Microsoft rules.

Lloyd Wood

lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx

and you haven't read that one either.

On 9 Jun 2021, at 20:29, Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton=40cisco.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Hi Lloyd,

 

My reading of that code of conduct is that it only applies to Microsoft run open-source projects rather than all open-source projects hosted on Github.  I.e., I would not regard IETF work hosted on github as coming under the scope of that code of conduct.

 

I’ve not read the policy closely, but at a quick glance it also looks reasonable to me.

 

Regards,
Rob

 

 

From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Lloyd W
Sent: 09 June 2021 04:53
To: Dean Willis <dean.willis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technical discussion.

 

It's worth pointing out that, as the IETF increases its reliance on Microsoft-owned github, and discussion moves more and more from IETF-managed mailing lists to git pull requests, IETF discussions become subject to Microsoft's own underlying social media rules. Git has now morphed from a complex command-line tool into a social network with, like, the worst interface ever, which makes it a natural fit with the computing vistas of Redmond.

 

https://microsoft.github.io/codeofconduct/

 

Still, good to know who runs things around here.

Lloyd Wood

lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx

 

now I really miss Myspace.

On 6 Jun 2021, at 10:02, Dean Willis <dean.willis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

But just a few weeks ago, we had a "tools" survey circulating, and several of the questions related to using assorted social media platforms for IETF work.

If you can get banned for a kill -9 comment -- well, we really can't be using that platform for IETF stuff. Even for jokes, apparently.